Complementary cancer therapies 'do more harm than good'

Merin Porter
Merin Porter Posts: 1,026 admin
edited November 2020 in Other News

So, what do you think?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50409431

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  • Teresa Klepac
    Teresa Klepac Posts: 24 ✭✭✭

    I think that it is important to know how the two different therapies will react but I don't believe the complimentary therapies do more harm than good. Remember, the pharmaceutical therapy is usually very disruptive to the body. I know that if is was me or a loved one I would be augmenting the treatment with complimentary therapies. I believe that the human body has great potential to heal itself if given the right tools.

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  • greyfurball
    greyfurball Posts: 591 ✭✭✭✭

    My first question when I see a title like this is "who supplied the funds for the research"?

    The answer to that question alone will tell you the slant on the article before you even read it.

    So yes, not every complementary therapy can and will be a success for every individual (the same can be said for conventional medicine), by combining the two types of medicine often you can get much more satisfactory results. But for myself I would never start with conventional medicine unless it was a true emergency. I would feel much more safer and more inclined to get a positive response from complementary medicine first and then add in conventional medicine therapies only as a last resort.

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  • ines871
    ines871 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw this thread as it was started, but did not want to comment then. Because I would go a step further than the first 2 responders, & say After working forty years in "conventional" medicine, there is NO WAY I would ever accept their deadly poisons, NOT ever. Not ever after all their LIES, & what I witnessed... thousands of times, over & over & over, before the intentional malpractice(s) I too suffered at their hands.

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  • Leslie Carl
    Leslie Carl Posts: 255 ✭✭✭✭

    In my understanding, the article is focusing on the fact that some alternative/natural/herbal therapies/products may have some undesirable consequences when taken in conjunction with medical therapies and if you are being treated medically, you should let your doctor know about any natural therapies you are using, due to possible conflicts between medicines.

    If you are entertaining both modes of treatment (medical and alternative), this advice is correct. Especially in the case of substances that can thin the blood. You really need to know what you are doing when combining medical drugs with natural remedies.

    Of course the better choice, in my opinion, is to go fully alternative. I am totally against pharmaceuticals, with their long lists of toxic side effects. Many of the side effects are even worse than what you are taking the medication for, and a lot of the ones I've looked at have the same ailment listed in the side effects, as what the medication is supposed to treat. Where's the sense in that?

    The title "Alternative Medicine" has always bothered me. How can it be "alternative" when it has been around for hundreds and thousands of years? Western medicine should be called "alternative".

    Here's an article you might find interesting. It talks about how Western Medicine, also known as Allopathy, originated how it overtook other systems of healing & medicine. Pay attention to the part about how and why coal tar is used in the making of drugs.

    https://thefreedomarticles.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/


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  • LaurieLovesLearning
    LaurieLovesLearning Posts: 7,375 admin

    @Leslie Carl Yes, alternative should be the term for what the allopathics practice. My husband says the exact same thing about farming. Organic is not the alternative. It is what is considered "conventional" that is the true alternative.

    This is exactly what I find happening in many/most areas of life (I won't list all that I can name here to keep the peace amongst this diverse group), is that very often the imitator works very hard to take over the good practice/belief/terms (or all 3) that has firmly established its name by repeatedly demonstrating its authenticity in the first place. It bullies it out, steals its terms while changing definitions, etc., claiming itself as true, meanwhile discrediting the true pure original. It might even add it's own extra stuff, but retains and redefines enough to keep drawing people in and keep them coming back for more. It gives the imitator almost instant credibility & the trust of the people, who then will defend it fiercely unless they get inadvertently (whoops!) hurt in some way. If this happens, the sham is seen through by that person, who often becomes bullied trash to whatever system/organization and they become discredited themselves as they are a danger to the imposter sham.

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  • Marjory Wildcraft
    Marjory Wildcraft Posts: 1,585 admin

    This commercial about "Chantix" - a drug to help you quit smoking - really is almost funny, except that it's true.

    Uh, lets see here - side effects include

    • changes in behavior
    • hostility
    • depression
    • suicidal thoughts or actions
    • allergic or skin reactions
    • nausea

    ah, and it goes on.

    https://youtu.be/3hp_y0wDFz0


    You know what, I'm going to keep a copy of this commercial to show my grand kids and great grand kids - no one will believe the times we live in.

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  • ines871
    ines871 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VickiP -

    in conventional medicine I have witnessed countless harming, disabling, & murdering acts, that honestly I am so thankful that here in TGN I can say the truth, & Not get told "None of that is true, you are crazy !" (as every other forum that I have tried to educate the general public about, & most christians are the worst !! - I have been told by 1000's of them, that they are convinced that "Medical doctors & drugs are God's gifts to us". Hello, what sacrilegious brainWashing!! - And I do believe that really happened to you. - IF any of those insurance bimbos ever dared come to our home for a "Wellness visit", I would call the police. Could they be arrested for Trespassing ?

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  • merlin44
    merlin44 Posts: 426 ✭✭✭✭

    @VickiP I think I would have needed something a little stronger than a strong cup of tea after an encounter like that. Love your quick response, good for you.

    @rainbow "countless harming, disabling, & murdering acts"-it is beyond frustrating when trying to explain the truth of what really occurs in the medical field. You're 100% correct, it is sacrilegious brainwashing. I've been called crazy too. What I think is crazy is handing ones health over to a doctor who is more concerned with ones ability to pay than with the person in need of healing. Guess to really believe how bad it is, you have to witness it firsthand.

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  • Iris Weaver
    Iris Weaver Posts: 32 ✭✭✭

    @VickiP Such a great response! Perhaps you could have looked at the person as he mentioned homocidality and STARED at him very hard...well, maybe not, he might have gotten too scared....

    Good for you for standing up for your health and your sanity.

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  • Merin Porter
    Merin Porter Posts: 1,026 admin
    https://community.thegrownetwork.com/discussion/comment/849888#Comment_849888

    @greyfurball, agreed. You've always got to follow the money when forming a judgment on just how objective or authoritative a study is....

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  • Merin Porter
    Merin Porter Posts: 1,026 admin
    https://community.thegrownetwork.com/discussion/comment/849989#Comment_849989

    Okay, I'm just putting myself out there by admitting this, but I had to look up the word "hirsute." Here's a virtual hug for adding to my vocabulary today, @VickiP!

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