Have you ever heard of Iboga? It must be good if it caused this much trouble... LOL

Marjory Wildcraft

Saw this from the American Botanical Council. Here is a link to the full article and the first few paragraphs down below. http://cms.herbalgram.org/heg/volume16/12December/Ibogagate.html?ts=1576797848&signature=19f1926adedb6672e5adfe331959308d

Plants have a history of both bringing great value and creating conflict, but the debate surrounding the decade-long presence of an iboga plant (Tabernanthe iboga, Apocynaceae) in the Hamilton Conservatory on Miami University’s (MUH’s) Hamilton, Ohio, campus came as a surprise to many. The controversy began in November 2018, when, because of the presence and potential illicit use of the plant, two of the university’s professors and a student were suspended and a staff member at the conservatory was asked to resign.

Iboga is a short shrub-like plant that is native to western Africa and its roots contain ibogaine, an active alkaloid that shows medicinal potential to treat substance-use disorders, among other conditions.1 But ibogaine also is known for its psychoactive effects, and it is listed by the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) as a Schedule I substance,1 defined as a substance that currently has no accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.2

Now, more than a year later, the tenured professors are still suspended and face potential termination, pending review of their appeals. MUH has been criticized for its handling of the incident, which has been called everything from “bewildering” and “inept” to “heavy-handed.” The school insists that it treats faculty with fairness, however. The case raises many questions about the status of plants that contain illegal compounds. Perhaps even more importantly, the primary question may be whether professors at institutes of higher learning should have the academic freedom to pursue knowledge of obscure botanicals and their uses by indigenous peoples, despite their regulatory status.

The situation also is causing concern at other universities and academic institutions across the United States because of its potential “chilling” impact on the study of botanicals and ethnobotany and other research in general.3

ines871

@Marjory Wildcraft Most critters called ' human ', who too much of the time forgot or completely ignore morals, who then decide what should be "illegal, & legal" while totally Incompetent to make any such decisions, - yet base JUDGMENTS on other such human critters, don't you find such shenanigans strange, if not totally crazy ( ? )

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Then the man-made chemicals KNOWN to be harming, including deadly, they are given patents... for, & Nobel Prizes, & yadda/yadda for the " improvement ?? of the human condition ".

seeker.nancy - Central Texas

I had not heard of this...interesting. The powers that be do tend to overreact when it comes to herbs and you are right @rainbow lol. I used to tell my kids not to be surprised if my door gets busted down and I'm hauled off lol. I don't do anything with the illegal herbs (that I know of lol) but still...I have lots of bags and jars with herbs in them. They are all labeled though but if they dumped them I might go postal...they are my life line. But let's hope that never occurs lol.

judsoncarroll4

Yes, a friend of mine was very into psychoactive substances in college. This was one he talked about. Ayahuasca was his main interest. Unfortunately, he disappeared.... by which I mean that he is physically still alive and accounted for, but his personality, his intelligence, wit, spark... all that was him inside... went on a trip and never returned.

dottile46

When I checked the DEA controlled substance list it does shows that the controlled substance is ibogaine which is a constituent of "Tabernanthe iboga" plant but it does not list it as a narcotic. Do not take this as legal advice, but from that I would think that it would not be illegal to grow the plant.

I agree, it must be real good to cause this much of a ruckus.

dottile46

I checked the DEA controlled substance list and it shows that the "constituent of the Tabemanthe iboga plant" is called ibogaine and it is a class I controlled substance but not a narcotic. This is not legal advice in any fashion, but in my opinion, it looks to be legal to grow the plant. The source of the seeds could be another thing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

dottile46

When I checked the DEA controlled substance list it does shows that the controlled substance is ibogaine which is a constituent of "Tabernanthe iboga" plant but it does not list it as a narcotic. Do not take this as legal advice, but from that I would think that it would not be illegal to grow the plant.

I agree, it must be real good to cause this much of a ruckus.

dottile46

I checked the DEA controlled substance list and it shows that the "constituent of the Tabemanthe iboga plant" is called ibogaine and it is a class I controlled substance but not a narcotic. This is not legal advice in any fashion, but in my opinion, it looks to be legal to grow the plant. The source of the seeds could be another thing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.