Wild grape sourdough - how to

silvertipgrizz

https://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2016/09/24/wild-grape-sourdough-starter

Obiora E

@silvertipgrizz Interesting experiment. Thank you for sharing.

judsoncarroll4

That is how George L. Herter made his sourdough starter. He didn't feed it as often as most though - he'd keep it in the fridge and use half to make his dough, then add back to, like a biga.

silvertipgrizz

@judsoncarroll4 On behalf of anyone else reading, who is George L. Herter? As I just know he will have something more to teach us and I am all ears when it comes to baking, esp bread.

silvertipgrizz

@Obiora E You're welcome.

Have you ever heard of using potato flakes and sugar for sour dough starter?

judsoncarroll4

https://community.thegrownetwork.com/discussion/comment/854096#Comment_854096

George Leonard Herter was a remarkably eccentric and brilliant man. He inherited a small sorting goods store and developed it into a major "outdoor world" style chain, with a Sears-type mail order catalogue written in the outrageous promotion style of a Barnum and Bailey Circus promotion. He wrote dozens of books, most well over 400 pages long. Among those were the best cookbooks ever authored in America- bar none. He was a story teller, who delighted in couching his recipes in fanciful, but loosely historical, tales. He was a curmudgeon, politically incorrect, libertarian western character, who enjoyed hunting with John Wayne, fishing with Ernest Hemingway, drinking, brawling and appreciating native culture. Think of him as Rush Limbaugh mixed with Anthony Bourdain.... making up stories for his grandkids, while teaching them how to cook, hunt, fish, build a log cabin, etc, etc, etc. I'm pretty sure the "Outdoorman" character on the show, "Last Man Standing" was based on him. He loved the American West... cowboys Indians and Confederates. He loathed Richard Nixon, who put him out of business through legislation. Herter is a major hero of mine - he was an American legend, a tell of tall tales, a self promoter and a genius.

silvertipgrizz

@judsoncarroll4 I'm intrigued. I guess I'll be busy doing a bit of my own research into him now that your info depicts him as quite interesting...plus I want to see his recipes lol....

Thanks for bringing him to light.

judsoncarroll4

@silvertipgrizz

A couple of starting places

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/books/review/Collins-t.html

https://archive.org/search.php?query=George%20Herter

Also, I used to have a facebook group dedicated to his book, "How TO Get Out OF THe Rat Race And Live on $10 A month"... but someone else is the admin now

Obiora E

@silvertipgrizz No I definitely have not. I have yet to make sourdough but when I do (hopefully this year) I am going to just use wild yeast.

judsoncarroll4

@silvertipgrizz This is a bit off topic, but I mentioned how great a promoter Herter was. Check out the pics of this old fruit cake tin... CLASSIC! @Mary Linda Bittle you may like this, too!

silvertipgrizz

@judsoncarroll4 The recipe for this fruitcake didn't happen to some how slip out to be found did it?

Thanks much for posting this. I refreshing whisp back in time, although glad my time didn't go far enough back for some of those outlaws. Looking at the pix of Wyatt, I can see why Kurt Russell was cast as him in the movie Tombstone. To me that was his best acting.

Now look who's off topic... 😛

judsoncarroll4

https://community.thegrownetwork.com/discussion/comment/855121#Comment_855121

I believe the recipe is either featured in his book, European and "American Professional Sourdough Cooking and Recipes" or in "Bull Cook Vol. 3". I'll look for it when I can. In the meantime, you can get on the waitlist for the sourdough book at archive. https://archive.org/details/europeanamerican00hert

silvertipgrizz

@judsoncarroll4 Thanks, and I got the link for the waiting list..