Vaccine for sterilization

Cornelius
Cornelius Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭

This is concerning that the WHO has been trying to develop a permanent sterilization method for decades: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1874951/

Comments

  • judsoncarroll4
    judsoncarroll4 Posts: 5,361 admin

    I know this sounds crazy, but it seems to be valid. Apparently, they even tried to create a genetically modified corn that would be contraceptive about 20 years ago!

  • Jens the Beekeeper
    Jens the Beekeeper Posts: 643 admin

    OK the article seems as @judsoncarroll4 said to be legit. Please keep discussing the topic to the point.

  • LaurieLovesLearning
    LaurieLovesLearning Posts: 7,374 admin
    edited July 2021


    ***MOD HAT ON***

    Please keep politics out of this discussion as this topic could easily go that direction. Thank you!

    ***MOD HAT OFF***


    They have been working on finding something "easy" for a very long time either through this or other ways. Strange it is a "vaccine" as fertility cannot be caught or spread as a disease...the two are much different. An "injection" is a more appropriate word.

    The problem with these types of things is that it is to be used for good (let's say, instead of the commonly used methods), but often, when you hear that phrase, you know that it can be and often will become a force for bad intentions.

  • Linda Bittle
    Linda Bittle Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am aware that the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) sometimes uses a birth control drug known as PZP-22 on mares in wild horse herds. It's administered by dart gun. I've always been surprised that I don't hear of it (or similar drugs) used in other populations.

    With animals, including pets, livestock, and wildlife, I find it preferable to some other means of population control. I've had my pets spayed and neutered my entire adult life, but it's expensive and invasive. And my latest former stray cat addition is still having heat periods despite the surgery! This is not as uncommon as I would like to believe, and will require another surgery if I want to keep the neighbors happy. Right now, I'd get her and injection if it were available.

    In humans, well, that's an entirely different case. Especially when considering if informed consent - or any consent - has been obtained. I'm also concerned about the length of "protection" and the ability to successfully carry a healthy pregnancy to term after such treatment. Wouldn't want my young relatives and friends signing up for it without serious consideration.

  • Cornelius
    Cornelius Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭

    The other terrifying thing is that it could cause autoimmune issues by causing the body to attack its own tissues. @Mary Linda Bittle, West Plains, Missouri I believe that this would be permanent as the immune system would never stop attacking the gametes. Also in relation to the animals I have read that other countries don't "fix" animals and just sperate them based on when they go into heat.

    @LaurieLovesLearning I did not consider that with the wording, but yes being fertile (especially as a human) is not usually considered a problem.

    @judsoncarroll4 That is also terrifying (although after readying this other article I am unfortunately not surprised).

  • Annie Kate
    Annie Kate Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭

    It all sounds terribly scary. Truly, technology and science can be incredibly dangerous if people are not encouraged to understand meaning of life and moral and humanitarian issues. And with the instant responses and mindless opinions that come from TikTok and other social media, propaganda and manipulation are becoming both easy and widespread. All very scary.

  • Annie Kate
    Annie Kate Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭

    As an aside, and not to get inflammatory, apparently even thoughtless, politically correct teen TikTok consumers know that the covid vaccines 'mess with your periods'. Perhaps we're there already?

  • judsoncarroll4
    judsoncarroll4 Posts: 5,361 admin

    The auto-immune reaction is a major reason why I refuse immunizations (post childhood). My grandfather had such a reaction to his first flu shot... that ended up triggering ALS. ALS is hereditary and can be triggered by many things. Vaccinations are one category of triggers I can avoid.

  • LaurieLovesLearning
    LaurieLovesLearning Posts: 7,374 admin

    I just read that Cuba is developing/has developed a lung cancer "vaccine." NOVA (PBS) has a show coming out on it soon.

    My question is what is with the idea of creating "vaccines" for things that are not contagious diseases? I still stand by the term "innoculation" for these things.

    The term "disease" used to mean something that can be passed from one to another...contagious. Now it seems to refer to other noncontagious types of sickness & bad habits as well. These aren't contagious. So where did the terms get so confused? Is it to give some sort of legitimacy and piggyback off of studies done in the past on vaccines, or?

    This is one of my lesser pet peeves having to do with terms, but it still exists, nonetheless. When will the craziness stop?

    I think something that can stop a cancer is a good thing, but I wonder what the trade off might be if one gets this inoculation? Would the recipients truthfully be told of side effects and other consequences? Many current treatments for cancer only go on to cause more cancer & other ongoing health issues. Some people are aware of this, but I am afraid that unfortunately, it takes very many others by surprise when their lifesaving treatment steals & ultimately takes their life in a much more sinister way.

  • Cornelius
    Cornelius Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭

    @Annie Kate Dr. Robert Malone (the inventor of mRNA Vaccines) said that the the vaccine is accumulating in the ovaries and his exact wording of physicians reaction was "Whhhhhaaaaatttt?????".

    @judsoncarroll4 The corn sterilization sounded interesting. Would you be willing to post article?

  • judsoncarroll4
    judsoncarroll4 Posts: 5,361 admin

    I'll try to find it again... that was years ago. I think Glenn Beck did a program on it back when he was on on TV, so maybe 12 years ago?

  • Cornelius
    Cornelius Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭

    Ok. Thank you so much!

  • Annie Kate
    Annie Kate Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2021

    OK, @Cornelius, that sounds really, really bad. So, as Dr Bridle of U Guelph says, children and people of child bearing age should not get the vaccine. https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/2021-06-15-Children-and-COVID-19-Vaccines-full-guide_-FINAL.pdf

    But lots of them have got the vaccine; I wonder if there is anything people can do to clear the accumulation out?

  • Cornelius
    Cornelius Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭

    @Annie Kate I hope that someone figures that out, but at the moment I do not believe that is possible. According to Dr. Malone the Spike protein produced by cells as a result of the vaccine (this is actually its whole purpose) are toxic and damaging wherever they end up. They were supposed to stay bound to the cell membrane on the outside of the cell (this was supposed to generate a cytotoxic T cell response (this creates cellular immunity by have the body kill infected cells before they release the newly built virus inside)), but it turns out that they separate and freely circulate in the blood (this is really bad). The ovaries are therefore getting hit directly with this toxic protein and the Good Lord knows how this is going to affect fertility.

    Here is the link to Dr. Malone's article: https://trialsitenews.com/bioethics-of-experimental-covid-vaccine-deployment-under-eua-its-time-we-stop-and-look-at-whats-going-down/


    @judsoncarroll4 Thank you for the article! I am both intrigued and terrified. I think using this as birth control is a terrible idea, especially since corn can pollinate other corn plants up to a mile away! The idea to make antibodies for viruses like herpes is neat and I think should be investigated further.

  • LaurieLovesLearning
    LaurieLovesLearning Posts: 7,374 admin

    Thank you all for taking part in this discussion and doing so with grace and respect.

    There is a lot of food for thought here. I think we can all agree that it is good to be informed and be able to make our own decisions based on all available information. It is even better to get all information if at all possible directly from the source. I appreciate that the information presented here can act as a solid springboard if someone wants to learn more.

    I am going to close this thread at this time. Thank you for understanding.

This discussion has been closed.